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by louis P. 8/10/2015 Verified purchase Variant: 61161

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???????????????? I can not say anything to this product, I do not know it ????

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by Philipp H. 4/8/2024 Verified purchase Variant: 61190

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Good product, poor hose

I ordered TIKALFLEX contact 12 in the cartridge and in the "variant for in-between times" in the small tube hose with a metal clip to screw in. Processing with the cartridge was flawless. Processing with the tube hose was impossible because the casing of both tubes used was torn. On the one hand because of the poorly made metal clip (sharp edges), on the other hand probably because of the somewhat tougher consistency of the product (was processed at an ambient temperature of 24 degrees) and the pressure required. I have already processed comparable systems from SIKA several times without any problems. I cannot recommend the product in this version (!!!) to anyone and will not buy it again.

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by Norman G. 9/4/2016 Variant: 61154

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Wenn das Deck nicht wieder hovhkäme nach 2 Jahren

Glued on my ship the deck with teak on 2 mm mahogany board with Sika and glued this construct in the season with Tikal on the GRP deck. Have already had to re-glue some teak strips in the cockpit because they broke away. Now I realize that after 2 years, the teak deck is largely solved by the GRP, now water is under the wood and it in the rain, if you burden the bodies with his body weight, at the joints "outside" really "puffs", weill air and water wells. Everything according to data sheet processed and degreased by the manufacturer. Everything that was glued with Sikaflex (cabin construction) has been bombproof and not otherwise processed. Can probably tear down the entire deck, which should not be difficult, since already solved everything, and make for a few thousand euros in the winter everything new. Thanks a lot to Tikal, the miracle product. Know another owner who had his deck built in a reputable shipyard. There is the same problem!

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Antwort vom Hersteller Tikal:

Sehr geehrter Norman G.,

wir hätten es sehr begrüßt, hätten sich mit einem solchen Schadensfall bei uns gemeldet. Wir hätten dann sicher die Ursache ergründen können.
Tikalflex wird nirgendwo als Wunderprodukt beworben, es ist aber seit inzwischen 20 Jahren auf tausenden Schiffen weltweit eingesetzt worden und daher können wir Ihnen versichern, dass das Problem nicht an den grundlegenden Eigenschaften des Produktes liegt.
Die Aussage, dass eine „renommierte Werft“ dieses Problem hatte erstaunt sehr, denn B2B Kunden melden sich in der Regel bei eindeutigen Produktfehlern beim Hersteller und uns ist kein solcher Fall aus den letzten zehn Jahren bekannt.
Sie haben also Teakdeck mit Sikaflex (welches?) auf Mahagoni geklebt und dieses dann mit Contact12 auf das GFK.
Es gibt viele Ursachen, warum dort nach zwei Jahren eine Delaminierung stattfinden kann, wie gesagt, das hätte man am aktuellen Fall untersuchen müssen.
Grundsätzlich empfehlen wir für die Verklebung eines Teakdecks unser TLB Flex, dennoch wird eine mit C12 verklebte Mahagoniplatte auf GFK immer C12 problemlos haften.

Response from the manufacturer Tikal:

Dear Norman G.,

We would have been very pleased if you had contacted us with such a case of damage. We would then certainly have been able to find out the cause.
Tikalflex is not advertised anywhere as a miracle product, but it has been used on thousands of ships worldwide for 20 years now and we can therefore assure you that the problem is not due to the basic properties of the product.
The statement that a "renowned shipyard" had this problem is very surprising, because B2B customers usually contact the manufacturer in the event of clear product defects and we are not aware of any such case in the last ten years.
So they glued the teak deck to the mahogany with Sikaflex (which one?) and then glued it to the GRP with Contact12.
There are many reasons why delamination can occur after two years, as I said, this should have been investigated in the actual case.
We generally recommend our TLB Flex for bonding a teak deck, but a mahogany panel bonded to GRP with C12 will always adhere to C12 without any problems.

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